Elizium: CD variations
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:33 pm
Some threads on this forum have mentioned variations in the artwork on Nephilim CDs. In order to figure these out, I have put together a list of the different pressings. To begin with and to keep things simple, I have limited the below list to UK CD releases of Elizium (other albums are more confusing, but I'll add separate threads for them, and maybe also post on foreign releases, if there is any interest in this thread). Anyways, I am sure there are more pressings around than those listed below.
Please share the details if you have a version missing from the list!
It's been so quiet around here that it's not the best time to bring this up, but at least this is something most of us can chime in to. And maybe there are further Nephilim collectors apart from me also interested in CDs. I for one would very much appreciate any help in adding to the list!
All of these are UK Elizium CDs, i.e. all are released by Beggars Banquet (although all of these are UK releases, not all of the pressing plants are/were located in the UK).
So here's the list (some explanation below):
BEGA 115 CD; Nimbus BEGACD 115 [1 dot; no IFPI]; 5012093911526, w/ green heptagram on black CD surface
BEGA 115 CD; Nimbus BEGACD 115 [1 dot; etched: 1:8; no IFPI]; 5012093911526, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface
BBL 115 CD; Nimbus BEGACD 115 [1 dot; etched: 1:8; --/2308]; 5012093911526, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface
BBL 115 CD, Nimbus [logo] 7529 BEGACD 115 [2 dots; etched: 1:1; L122/2307]; 607618011529, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface
BBL 115 CD, Nimbus [logo] 7529 BEGACD 115 [3 dots; unetched; L123/2308]; 607618011529, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface
BBL 115 CD, Nimbus BBL 115 CD [2 dots; unetched; L125/2409 = Nimbus US]; 607618011529, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface, w/out white credits
BBL 115 CD; Technicolor 7529 BEGACD 115 07 [small: 1:1; L122/2303]; 607618011529, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface
BBL 115 CD; [Cinram; indirectly mentioned] WEA Mfg Olyphant X19815 Q9 BBL2 115.3-2 01 [etched: CI M0S1; L902/2U2O]; 607618011529, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface, w/out white credits
BBL 115 CD; [3BC Ltd.; not mentioned] CD BBL115CD 04123-6858 [LU31/RZ01]; 607618011529, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface
BBL 115 CD; Lynic BBL115CD 91777 01 [LU81/KA02]; 607618011529, w/ grey heptagram on black CD surface
BBL 115 CD; Sonopress Arvato [logo] 52328329/BBL115CD 21 [LB47/0788]; 607618011529, w/ grey heptagram on black CD surface
The entries are as follows: (1) catalog number; [(2) pressing company if not mentioned in matrix] (3) matrix [(4) further matrix band info]; (5) barcode, (6) further identifiers
(1) catalog number as found on artwork (rear inlay as well as disc surface print), only one change for Elizium for the UK pressings (from BEGA to BBL)
(2) pressing companies not mentioned in the matrix band can be identified if the CD comes with SID (i.e. IFPI) codes (first appearing in 1994)
(3) sometimes identical to the catalog number, sometimes a different alphanumerical code, sometimes the pressing company is mentioned in addition, with almost all of the early Nephilim pressings being done by Nimbus (in the matrix band usually saying: 'Mastered by Nimbus'; I have also abbreviated other info above, e.g. 'Lynic' is 'www.lynic.com' in the matrix band)
(4) various additional info can be included:
- dots after the matrix code (Nimbus used a system of dots to identify the mastering run, i.e. different number of dots = different master)
- etched or printed info on the pressing plates (e.g. 1:0) or the pressing company (e.g. CI)
- SID codes (usually miniscule, yet the most telling piece of info): first listed the mastering SID (identifier for the mastering plant, usually lasered into the matrix band)/subsequently listed the mould SID (of the code usually moulded into the clear part of the CD around the centre hole, only the first two digits are important as they identify the pressing plant)
(5) two different barcodes for the UK, the change does not fully correspond with the change in the catalog number (the latter barcode is technically a US code)
(6) UK Elizium CD releases come with at least four different disc surface artworks
e.g. for the last of the CDs listed above:
(1) BBL 115 CD
(2) -
(3) Sonopress Arvato [logo] 52328329/BBL115CD 21
the pressing company logo as pictured here:
https://www.discogs.com/de/label/268910 ... ess-Arvato
(4) mastering SID: LB47; mould SID: 0788
(5) 607618011529
(6) disc surface artwork: grey heptagram on black CD surface
That's all I can contribute. Any further variation on your Elizium CD?
Please share the details if you have a version missing from the list!
It's been so quiet around here that it's not the best time to bring this up, but at least this is something most of us can chime in to. And maybe there are further Nephilim collectors apart from me also interested in CDs. I for one would very much appreciate any help in adding to the list!
All of these are UK Elizium CDs, i.e. all are released by Beggars Banquet (although all of these are UK releases, not all of the pressing plants are/were located in the UK).
So here's the list (some explanation below):
BEGA 115 CD; Nimbus BEGACD 115 [1 dot; no IFPI]; 5012093911526, w/ green heptagram on black CD surface
BEGA 115 CD; Nimbus BEGACD 115 [1 dot; etched: 1:8; no IFPI]; 5012093911526, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface
BBL 115 CD; Nimbus BEGACD 115 [1 dot; etched: 1:8; --/2308]; 5012093911526, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface
BBL 115 CD, Nimbus [logo] 7529 BEGACD 115 [2 dots; etched: 1:1; L122/2307]; 607618011529, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface
BBL 115 CD, Nimbus [logo] 7529 BEGACD 115 [3 dots; unetched; L123/2308]; 607618011529, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface
BBL 115 CD, Nimbus BBL 115 CD [2 dots; unetched; L125/2409 = Nimbus US]; 607618011529, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface, w/out white credits
BBL 115 CD; Technicolor 7529 BEGACD 115 07 [small: 1:1; L122/2303]; 607618011529, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface
BBL 115 CD; [Cinram; indirectly mentioned] WEA Mfg Olyphant X19815 Q9 BBL2 115.3-2 01 [etched: CI M0S1; L902/2U2O]; 607618011529, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface, w/out white credits
BBL 115 CD; [3BC Ltd.; not mentioned] CD BBL115CD 04123-6858 [LU31/RZ01]; 607618011529, w/ yellow heptagram on silver CD surface
BBL 115 CD; Lynic BBL115CD 91777 01 [LU81/KA02]; 607618011529, w/ grey heptagram on black CD surface
BBL 115 CD; Sonopress Arvato [logo] 52328329/BBL115CD 21 [LB47/0788]; 607618011529, w/ grey heptagram on black CD surface
The entries are as follows: (1) catalog number; [(2) pressing company if not mentioned in matrix] (3) matrix [(4) further matrix band info]; (5) barcode, (6) further identifiers
(1) catalog number as found on artwork (rear inlay as well as disc surface print), only one change for Elizium for the UK pressings (from BEGA to BBL)
(2) pressing companies not mentioned in the matrix band can be identified if the CD comes with SID (i.e. IFPI) codes (first appearing in 1994)
(3) sometimes identical to the catalog number, sometimes a different alphanumerical code, sometimes the pressing company is mentioned in addition, with almost all of the early Nephilim pressings being done by Nimbus (in the matrix band usually saying: 'Mastered by Nimbus'; I have also abbreviated other info above, e.g. 'Lynic' is 'www.lynic.com' in the matrix band)
(4) various additional info can be included:
- dots after the matrix code (Nimbus used a system of dots to identify the mastering run, i.e. different number of dots = different master)
- etched or printed info on the pressing plates (e.g. 1:0) or the pressing company (e.g. CI)
- SID codes (usually miniscule, yet the most telling piece of info): first listed the mastering SID (identifier for the mastering plant, usually lasered into the matrix band)/subsequently listed the mould SID (of the code usually moulded into the clear part of the CD around the centre hole, only the first two digits are important as they identify the pressing plant)
(5) two different barcodes for the UK, the change does not fully correspond with the change in the catalog number (the latter barcode is technically a US code)
(6) UK Elizium CD releases come with at least four different disc surface artworks
e.g. for the last of the CDs listed above:
(1) BBL 115 CD
(2) -
(3) Sonopress Arvato [logo] 52328329/BBL115CD 21
the pressing company logo as pictured here:
https://www.discogs.com/de/label/268910 ... ess-Arvato
(4) mastering SID: LB47; mould SID: 0788
(5) 607618011529
(6) disc surface artwork: grey heptagram on black CD surface
That's all I can contribute. Any further variation on your Elizium CD?