Nephilim-giants or entities?
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Nephilim-giants or entities?
there seems to be these 2 different depictions. That 'nephilim' were flesh and blood giants or that they were entities not of the 'material' world. Or was it both?
here is one guys interpretations, some interesting info there, wonder how accurate much of it is. havent persued too deep .
http://stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html
http://youtu.be/pLBIXq292UM
I found it interesting he was taking about depictions of other mythological creatures in relation to the nephilim one.
he talks a lot about 'discoveries' of bones. and says there is a cover up or somethign. 36 foot giants?? that pretty hard to cover up. i highly doubt the scientific community would have reason for doing that.
here is one guys interpretations, some interesting info there, wonder how accurate much of it is. havent persued too deep .
http://stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html
http://youtu.be/pLBIXq292UM
I found it interesting he was taking about depictions of other mythological creatures in relation to the nephilim one.
he talks a lot about 'discoveries' of bones. and says there is a cover up or somethign. 36 foot giants?? that pretty hard to cover up. i highly doubt the scientific community would have reason for doing that.
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Well my understanding of the issue, for what its worth......
The Nephilim were the flesh and blood kin of the watchers after the watchers had mated with humankind.
The Nephilim were the flesh and blood kin of the watchers after the watchers had mated with humankind.
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...also, in times before the great flood they made records and played great live gigs. Then the wrath of god fell upon them (and their fans), so they stopped making records and started fooling mankind about studio releases and dvds....ian wrote:The Nephilim were the flesh and blood kin of the watchers after the watchers had mated with humankind.
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thank that would make the watchers flesh and blood wouldnt it?ian wrote:Well my understanding of the issue, for what its worth......
The Nephilim were the flesh and blood kin of the watchers after the watchers had mated with humankind.
its seems there are contradiction and variation between many writings and sources between the 'angels' as being non flesh and sexless entities to the tale of the nephilim.
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Kostas wrote:...also, in times before the great flood they made records and played great live gigs. Then the wrath of god fell upon them (and their fans), so they stopped making records and started fooling mankind about studio releases and dvds....ian wrote:The Nephilim were the flesh and blood kin of the watchers after the watchers had mated with humankind.
well this does bring up an interesting question, what did the nephilim and ancient people use for music?
according to this article a bone flute is the oldest instrument
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8117915.stm
altho some beleive the didgeridoo to be older
http://didgeridooreview.com/didgeridoo/ ... the-world/
though most articles put sumer at a much later date around 3000BC
http://www.williamsound.com/gold_lyre_music_info.html
mabee FOTN need to add a lyre to the new material.
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As far as I know, some of the angels had sex with whatever an orifice. Which might have been a way to praise Gods creation. So angels might not have been flesh'n blood, but there weren't also strangers to it.
The Nephilim were flesh and blood. Later, when they were dead, not.
There's this ghastly thing told about 'em that they ate people and other stuff. I don't find this information very trustworthy because history is always written by the winners. Being dead made it even harder for the Nephilim to tell their side of the story.
I like think of 'em not as giants in a physical sense but as giants as philosophers.
The Nephilim were flesh and blood. Later, when they were dead, not.
There's this ghastly thing told about 'em that they ate people and other stuff. I don't find this information very trustworthy because history is always written by the winners. Being dead made it even harder for the Nephilim to tell their side of the story.
I like think of 'em not as giants in a physical sense but as giants as philosophers.
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I think all this nephilim thingy is just another bloody hoax, that came out from some twisted mind smoking weed and drinking some fermented shit. Amen
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Weird. I had the same thought when I stumbled out of the cinema the other day.angry bob wrote:I think all this nephilim thingy is just another bloody hoax, that came out from some twisted mind smoking weed and drinking some fermented shit. Amen
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Angelic stuff actually is a good material for the movies. The Prophecy is rather cool onemarkandre13 wrote:Weird. I had the same thought when I stumbled out of the cinema the other day.angry bob wrote:I think all this nephilim thingy is just another bloody hoax, that came out from some twisted mind smoking weed and drinking some fermented shit. Amen
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Adam (female principle as 'une dame') and Eve (male as Eve+il il=he masc.) were getting on well in the begining of their mutual creation. They needed nothing but each other's company and food (humours according to some theory) until Eve is tempted elsewhere than Adam for food. The balance kept by their mutual need of each other is cut. Since then start the arguments and discordance between them both. Frustration, jealousy, betrayal, fight, become the new feelings and food along with the distance.
The price/vengeance seems to have become : let's see how you will bear the distance now.
From then survey became a problem and all sorts of food have been tried at any price even the destruction of other life.
The price/vengeance seems to have become : let's see how you will bear the distance now.
From then survey became a problem and all sorts of food have been tried at any price even the destruction of other life.
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I imagine the dialogue…angry bob wrote:I think all this nephilim thingy is just another bloody hoax, that came out from some twisted mind smoking weed and drinking some fermented shit. Amen
Joseph : Oï ! Jeeze ! Are you going to help me with dat bloody planks or feckin' what, yer lazy basterd ?
Jesus : Wait ! I had a vision ! Feed the meek ! Clothe the Earth ! The hungry shall inherit the naked !
Joseph : Yer been smokin' dat crap dat the Tyr merchant sold you, innit ? Told yer t'was no good. Bloody son gonna be the death of mee, I swear !
Jesus : What if I reveal to you that Mary had a virgin birth ?
Joseph : And yer telling me dat bollocks ? I'm the feckin' one to feckin' know whether I feckin' did the sign o' the double-gilled alligator wid mee wife or what, for Jahweh's sake ! Now will yer feckin' get back to work ? Yer a carpenter, remember, so put yer bony Jewish's ass in gear !
Jesus : Next time I'll be a zoroastrian !
Joseph : Watcher grumblin' 'bout, buster ?
Jesus : Oh, sod it.
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Weed Thomas :
Digital audio tape bollocks... I'd be curious to listen.
Digital audio tape bollocks... I'd be curious to listen.
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Thomas if you aint on drugs tonight mate you fecking need to be
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I'd rather think like Dogmatix he's fallen in it when he was little
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Do you think I need drugs or anything to talk bollocks ?ian wrote:Thomas if you aint on drugs tonight mate you fecking need to be
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Cant be arsed to watch it... The giant skeletons are fake. It was stated by explorer and writer Andrew Collins. I read a comment by him where he says its a hoax. A competent source i believe he is.Bau wrote: http://youtu.be/pLBIXq292UM
I found it interesting he was taking about depictions of other mythological creatures in relation to the nephilim one.
he talks a lot about 'discoveries' of bones. and says there is a cover up or somethign. 36 foot giants?? that pretty hard to cover up. i highly doubt the scientific community would have reason for doing that.
No. I'm speaking from the experienceThomasB wrote:Do you think I need drugs or anything to talk bollocks ?
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markandre13 wrote:As far as I know, some of the angels had sex with whatever an orifice. Which might have been a way to praise Gods creation. So angels might not have been flesh'n blood, but there weren't also strangers to it.
The Nephilim were flesh and blood. Later, when they were dead, not.
There's this ghastly thing told about 'em that they ate people and other stuff. I don't find this information very trustworthy because history is always written by the winners. Being dead made it even harder for the Nephilim to tell their side of the story.
I like think of 'em not as giants in a physical sense but as giants as philosophers.
orifice? yeah ok you had the male angels breeding with female humans, so what about female angels and human males?
as far a cannabalism, it was not uncommon in ancient times, that have been all sorts of stories about it , also not uncommon with many primative cultures.
I agree with your last sentence. i think the translations of these old texts the stories are taken from are iffy. the 'men of renown' thing being less about giants and more about rulers of influence. as you say 'giants' in another definition.
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angry bob wrote: Cant be arsed to watch it... The giant skeletons are fake. It was stated by explorer and writer Andrew Collins. I read a comment by him where he says its a hoax. A competent source i believe he is.
Cant say I agree with Collins views or trust him as a competent source of much either realy.
but well its all just myth anyway innit? most myths and legends are just passed down stories with a shred of fact combined with a whole lot of misinformation. yup good material for movies and art. I emagine the people who wrote the original stuff about it thought so too.
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I've never thought of that but I've also never heard of female angels. Maybe they are all Hermaphrodites?Bau wrote:orifice? yeah ok you had the male angels breeding with female humans, so what about female angels and human males?
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Women may not need to pretend such as men have, a world in which not just what you see is what you get but which became : all that you see is all that you get.
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About shocking vocabulary, I'd say it's rather metaphorical...not to be taken too litterally.
ex: to be devoured when is followed by 'by light' has another meaning than flesh to feed.
The horror is changed in grace = exaclty the opposite.
A blog page entitled "the symbiotic relationships:cannibalism, truffles and scramble eggs":
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About shocking vocabulary, I'd say it's rather metaphorical...not to be taken too litterally.
ex: to be devoured when is followed by 'by light' has another meaning than flesh to feed.
The horror is changed in grace = exaclty the opposite.
A blog page entitled "the symbiotic relationships:cannibalism, truffles and scramble eggs":
http://www.ecopolis.org/the-symbiotic-r ... bled-eggs/