The real inspiration of the Nephs?

[Farkas]

well, now...one of my favorite movies of all times and now i found this (again) and must say:
except "once upon a time in the west": this must be one of carls inspirations to create his "look".
and btw: listen to the song played some seconds later

Keoma (click me)

[weebleswobble]

indeedly

[Big Si]

Clicky! and Clicky!

I gotta get me some of them films

[Sadoldgit]

I'm just glad Carl decided to drop the falsetto. Dawnrazor just wouldn't have sounded right sung at that pitch!!

[Bau]

I'm just glad Carl decided to drop the falsetto. Dawnrazor just wouldn't have sounded right sung at that pitch!!

I like his high pitched stuff, I think its rather cute!


http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligen ... index.html
http://www.greymatter.org/satanichamsterdance/

[Farkas]

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[Sadoldgit]

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Cheers, Bau!

[The_Infidel]

Spooky stuff!

Keoma ... Ma keo ... get my drift?

[baba]

I knew about the movies and Marricone as an influence of the early sound and image, but what I'd never guessed was that behind that as an influence was......

surf rock??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl0iODzZ_3Y&NR=1

[Farkas]

ghoul

but nice track btw...i like that shite

[Mark Anthony Quested]

well, now...one of my favorite movies of all times and now i found this (again) and must say:
except "once upon a time in the west": this must be one of carls inspirations to create his "look".
and btw: listen to the song played some seconds later

Keoma (click me)

Once upon a time in the west was the major inspiration and Carl's favourite film.

If you would like to see some Nephilim like westerns, I'd highly recommend "High Plains Drifter" and "Pale Rider" starring Clint Eastwood. Both these films have a paranormal inspiration, in the sense that the lead character is supposed to be some kind of angel of death.

[ThomasB]

well, now...one of my favorite movies of all times and now i found this (again) and must say:
except "once upon a time in th
If you would like to see some Nephilim like westerns, I'd highly recommend "High Plains Drifter" and "Pale Rider" starring Clint Eastwood. Both these films have a paranormal inspiration, in the sense that the lead character is supposed to be some kind of angel of death.

…And Antonio Margheriti's shamefully forgotten "E dio dice a Cain", where Klaus Kinski's character is obviously an avenging ghost.
There's much more to Western Spaghetti than just Leone. The two others Sergio (Sollima and Corbucci) are his equals IMHO… (Paging Beth… Paging Beth… Assistance needed… Please back me up on this ! )
Gee, look wot you've done ! Now I want to watch some Djangos (or would that be Djangi ? ) !

[baba]

ghoul

but nice track btw...i like that shite

but ghoul?

please, call me Betty Davis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XypVcv77WBU


BTW could this be where McCoy got his look for the Mourning Sun album?



thats a beautiful horse in the pic. I'm partial to gray.

[gingerpazuzu]

Thomas I'm here! Aboslutely there is far more than Leone as regarding Italian westerns,I concur with Thomas that both Sollima + Corbucci are Leone's predecessor,Django is the first acknowleged western within the Italian genre,Franco Nero being the orginal archetype for the man with no name type character,the italian western gained prominence in international cinema with the Leone westerns without a doubt as they featured actors who were non Italian + therefore more recognisable,but at leat to me + a many others it is Franco Nero's depiction of Django that set the precedence for that lone stranger that features in the genre..With advent of DVD of many previously unkown gems including as Thomas so rightly mentions 'E dio dice a cain' are available in english laguage versions + have been remastered.My reason for learning to speak Italian comes from way in the 80's when I learnt to speak Italian as the only full versions of the majortity of italian westerns were only available in their full versions in their native language,a long with my twin passions for italian giallos,Thomas will understand what I mean But do venture further than the more commercially known westerns you wont be disappointed I promise

[ThomasB]

Thomas I'm here! Aboslutely there is far more than Leone as regarding Italian westerns,I concur with Thomas that both Sollima + Corbucci are Leone's predecessor,Django is the first acknowleged western within the Italian genre,Franco Nero being the orginal archetype for the man with no name type character,the italian western gained prominence in international cinema with the Leone westerns without a doubt as they featured actors who were non Italian + therefore more recognisable,but at leat to me + a many others it is Franco Nero's depiction of Django that set the precedence for that lone stranger that features in the genre..With advent of DVD of many previously unkown gems including as Thomas so rightly mentions 'E dio dice a cain' are available in english laguage versions + have been remastered.My reason for learning to speak Italian comes from way in the 80's when I learnt to speak Italian as the only full versions of the majortity of italian westerns were only available in their full versions in their native language,a long with my twin passions for italian giallos,Thomas will understand what I mean But do venture further than the more commercially known westerns you wont be disappointed I promise

Thanks my friend, I knew I could count on you !
Yes indeed, there are gems to be found in there. "El Chuncho" and Sergio Sollima's "Faccia a faccia" and two "El Chuchillo" movies, all featuring the mighty Tomas Milian, are deeper social commentaries than most of the realist cinema of the seventies (which I enjoy as well, mind you !).
For those inclined, many movies like "Django il bastardo" have a pretty obvious and, for their time, daring homosexual subtext. And about "Keoma", a featurette on the French DVD states how much Spaghetti westerns could breach themes that the US westerns, too much mired in the myth, could not, like racism in "Keoma". Considering how modern western are still mired in the myth ("Look ! It's history ! How we became Ye Ubermensch of our times ! It HAS to be heavy !), things like "Back to the future 3" still feels like a breath of fresh air…
P.S. And I wonder how they dared call the Japanese Chambaras (swords epics) "Soja-western" when they had a bit of ten years in advance, thematically, and twenty years, technically, in advance on westerns since the sixties. Case in hand, just look at the original Zaitochi movies and their use of scope, or the "Baby Cart" series, or Kurosawa's "Seven magnificent samuraïs", which had to be turned into… you name it… a western !!!

[Ngie]

Thank you fairy much for sharing the references and for making me know (or renow) Keoma especially. A very important piece of the nephilim construction indeed whichever kind of an influence it's been. The music and voice going with it is so special and heart-rending. Bau I can't help it but imagine you singing that. There's something in your voice which would match very well with it, but you've maybe already made something from it, haven't you?